RealSail - new platform
Post by iconPost by Ultimate Victory | 2021-02-17 | 13:28:35

Cvetan,
We are several from VR testing the new beta virtual sailing platform named RealSail https://www.realsail.net/
This game seems promising, and very open and listening to the community, and there are improvements done every few days.

If I remember well you said they contacted you, and if not it would be good to contact them as an integration with Zezo would be great.

Thanks,
.UV

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Post by iconPost by zezo | 2021-02-17 | 16:14:24
I will support it sooner or later, but can't get to it. I have a project at work that's becoming short on time, and with that Covid the life is a bit of a mess. Someone/everybody gets quarantined occasionally and I have to take care of my daughter (or can't get to the office, and doing work with a 5yo around the house is almost impossible)
Post by iconPost by Ultimate Victory | 2021-02-17 | 16:22:04
got it Cvetan, appreciate the quick answer. Take care.
Post by iconPost by pmangino | 2021-02-26 | 22:00:24
Hi Cvetan, I'm one more virtual sailor looking for new fresh sites to enjoy virtual sailing. It's nice that eventually and accordingly with your other projects and duties, you will support realsail.net
Best regards:
Pat Mangino
Princess Marina Skipper.
Post by iconPost by Baker | 2021-02-27 | 00:06:17
May I ask if and when realsail.net will be up and running ? Is it just for a closed beta testers group right now ?
thanks !

Post by iconPost by Ultimate Victory | 2021-02-27 | 09:14:43
Yes RealSail is still in beta mode. You can register thru this page https://www.realsail.net/ and you will be notified once a new race will start.
We don't know right now when the game will be publicly available.
Post by iconPost by Baker | 2021-02-27 | 16:50:07
thanks Ultimate!
Post by iconPost by marcusbelgicus | 2021-02-28 | 08:20:17
Platform crashed again this morning...

Post by iconPost by SPRexxii | 2021-03-12 | 21:35:00
Realsail has been making great strides and is really involved with the beta testers. they have shut down for about 10 days to make improvements with shoreline limits and other items including migrating to a more stout server platform. try the link above mid next week as they usually start a set of beta races Friday afternoons. you can find a chat server on discord with very good information and discussion on the game.

Post by iconPost by Avontuur | 2021-03-14 | 09:23:02
The RealSail platform is Beta testing with an IMOCA 60 polar. is it possible to provide a map for Europe or world with this polar?
No waypoints or gates, just the map with the polar.


I used the Nordstream map with the class 40 to plan my race in the Mediterranean. This works, however the right polar would be nice.

In the game the polar is IMOCA 60:
no foils, no polish, jib, spi, gennaker (assume light).
Small punishement for tack, gibe and sailchange

maybe somebody compared the polars more in detail to check if it is old or new. at the moment this does not matter for it is only for testing and bug removal
Post by iconPost by Avontuur | 2021-03-19 | 15:17:26
The Vendee Globe map can be used with manual inputs:
choose C0.
The gennaker is less powerfull. it only covers the gap between spi and jib.


Post by iconPost by azazel | 2021-03-19 | 17:02:03
hello tonight at 9:30 p.m. utc departure of a regatta on realsail register to test
Post by iconPost by BooBill | 2021-03-21 | 02:25:38
Been doing the Sydney-Hobart race to see what this is all about. Race is a real snooze. Totally straight run so far.

However, interface is clean, easy to learn and seems to work with few bugs. Those that have had problems have posted in the "report a bug" chat room and the developers have responded. No getting form letter replies from Jessica 3 days later.

It's real easy to connect the built in NMEA feed to any router that supports it. Apparently, you can even upload a route in KML that you generated and it will program that. That's the first thing I've had problems with. Trouble shooting now.

What Realsail would really benefit from is the Zezo/Dashboard ecosystem. qtVlm is super powerful, but also super complex. It would be nice to have the simplicity of use that Cvetan, Michael et al have created. I hope you guys can find the time to support it. I really think these guys are going to succeed in taking a chunk out of VR.



Post by iconPost by Tarahumara_POR | 2021-03-21 | 18:54:05
Finish the Sydney Hobart Race today .. a little more complex platform, slower, but made in a more professional way.. so far positive experience :)
Post by iconPost by Baker | 2021-03-23 | 18:10:03
I am racing in Den Helder Scheveningen, it's maybe something that will grow, but VR, with all the bugs you can find in it, it's still a lot more immersive. Let's hope they have the resources to work on it and let it grow in the future.
@BooBill, I loaded the route generated with Qtvlm and I can see the track "superimposed" on the regatta field. I've found no way to program it if not manually drawing my waypoints on it.
The programmer it's really still very close to an alpha version for what I saw.
Post by iconPost by BooBill | 2021-03-23 | 20:59:02
Yeah, I was under the mistaken impression that if you loaded a .kml then it programmed those waypoints. It just puts a track on the screen that you can then trace with wp or autopilot.

The one thing I really do like about Realsail is you can mix waypoints and twa program moves. So, no need to get out of bed when you clear a headland to click the twa button.

Admittedly they are having some issues today. Fortunately, I picked a good day to play golf ;)
Post by iconPost by Armchairsailor | 2021-04-11 | 07:51:54
I think it is sufficent to have one race to stay open with the imoca 60 polar to enable Real Sail planing. That seems doable even witha five year old running around.

This is sufficent as it is possible to set any destination and to input any startposition and the wind information is present worldwide.
Post by iconPost by BooBill | 2021-04-11 | 18:28:09
The Realsail Imoca polars are not the VR Imoca polars. They are actually more realistic, with some real gaps between sails and points where the polar lines are not concentric. I think they got their hands on a real 1st gen foilers sail polars, but are only using 3 sails, hence weird gaps.

That said, I know a lot of guys are using Zezo for their routing over there and being mindful of the gaps.

It's my impression these guys are going to succeed and draw a good number of people away from VR. I for one enjoy their races a lot more than VR. Official Zezo support would be huge for them.
Post by iconPost by Avontuur | 2021-04-22 | 06:17:19
Tonight 1900 UTC we start a new race in RealSail: Brest to Lisbon.

this race is organized by our community :)
The game is still in Beta mode and small bugs appear.
the programming and waypoints work much better now and make it possible to navigate both coastal and off shore.
on Discord players can participate in the discussions on the developments and have fun with other players.
As mentioned earlier you can do rough navigation with the Zezo VG map with power winch only. The best result is obtained if you use a routing program with the correct polar, because there are some significant dips in the RS IMOCA 60 polar.
Post by iconPost by BooBill | 2021-04-22 | 14:18:10
If you want to check it out without taking the step of registering and racing, Realsail has a spectator function, so you can follow along and see if this interests you.

​https://beta.realsail.net/#/viewer/jvgoiMcCFA​

First thing you'll notice is the nearly continuous movement of the boats. Popcorn recommend!
Post by iconPost by SlyStarLeRetour | 2021-04-25 | 21:45:44
Hi Boobill, I followed your advice. Looks good indeed. I started to sail the Boxing Kangaroos cup ... but grounded because my TWA didn't lock up and therefore went straight... Still got to learn it :) but promising, agreed
Post by iconPost by BooBill | 2021-04-26 | 00:42:58
Your presence was noted immediately Sly.

As with anything, bit of a learning curve. Although, Wamaprod placed 2nd in the Brest-Lisbon race that finished this morning in his debut.

Almost all the bugs worked out now. Virtually no downtime anymore. Still getting the kinks out of the land detection routines. Some people are obsessed with that, but I'm of the attitude, you want to take a chance go for it. Seems you might escape the coastline detection on the way in, but not the way out, effectively trapping you.

This Boxing Kangaroos Cup is a beast from a routing perspective, with a gate run parallel to the rhumb line that you must cross, but from either side and it's right where the isochrones of the east and west major routes meet.

I guess that's what you get when you let a bunch of drunken marsupials design a race course.

Post by iconPost by SlyStarLeRetour | 2021-04-26 | 02:51:23
... drunken Marsupials ::)) Excellent !...

PS / question is more : how to get off an aground position and go back to sea? Seems we are stuck for ever?
Post by iconPost by BooBill | 2021-04-26 | 05:21:20
Hopefully they've solved it now. Earlier today people were going aground and managing to escape through the collision detection system. Then they would get caught by the system as they attempted to cross back over the coastal barrier back into water. You can always do what Hardtack did and ask for assistance. The developer has towed a few off the rocks.

Joining the Discord server is a good idea. There is a lot of chatter about issues like this. Being able to bust balls with the competition in real time is a lot of fun too, or maybe that's just my nature.
Post by iconPost by BooBill | 2021-04-26 | 05:24:02
Oh, I see that wasn't a theoretical question. You are hard aground. I'll put in a request to free you.
Post by iconPost by theo | 2021-05-08 | 11:40:07
I didn't like it on my first visit to this platform. I thought it was just out of the beta test and to see my yacht parked in the middle of a city without any way to get back to sea, didn't help and probably influenced me to see with a negative eye, the platform. I didn't understand that it is now under beta. Additionally, I found the environment kind of dark with the real map and difficult to get a clear picture of all yachts in the water and everything. Reminded me a bit of "windy" (the weather forcst platform), in which is difficult to identify the see from the land. I'll give it another try for sure!! We should be supporting every platform that is doing promising work. Definitely, VR needs an answer to the games defiant in-race condition

Post by iconPost by BooBill | 2021-04-27 | 17:38:51
Taking another crack at the Annapolis-Newport race today at 2000UTC after the first attempt yesterday had to be abandoned due to problems with the land detection. Join at https://beta.realsail.net

Post by iconPost by Trailaspress | 2021-05-08 | 17:58:59
This Real Sail is full of bugs, waste time, they need to improve the software.
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